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Dawn,It is not hypocritical to change your mind or at least develop your ideas a bit.  You might expect me to have changed my views after three years of actual experience as a councillor.  I still think that there is too much self promotion by the state, certainly there is too much money is spent on it.  I do think though that Around Ealing stays the right side of the line.  For a net cost of £85K a year (the same budget as the old quarterly version), or 5p per copy delivered to your door, I think residents get useful, non-partisan information about their council.  My original comments came when the previous administration moved AE from quarterly to monthly just a few months before the local elections.  It seemed a little cheeky to say the least.  Since then two things have happened.  The Ealing comms people have been good at pulling in advertising revenue to cover their costs (which I had previously doubted they could do) and the Gazette has been consistently unwilling to cover council related issues in enough depth.  They have lots of material to cover and it is unrealistic that they are going to tell people what is happening at the Michael Flanders Day Centre or help us to educate people to keep off school zig-zags to take two examples from the latest issue.  I challenge Eric and you to pull anything out of the last issue of Around Ealing that is "political" and not just straight information about what is going on in the borough.  The council as an organisation is, I think, entitled to find the cheapest and most effective way of informing the public about what it does.  Do you want to know when surgeries are?  Are you interested in holiday rubbish collections?  Do you want to know about school holiday activities for children?  You might not like the pieces about littering or zig-zag parking but the council does have a duty to let people know what the rules are and to encourage people to follow them.  What bit exactly offends you?

Phil Taylor ● 6391d

Phil,Interesting you would describe your change of mind in terms of 'developing your ideas'. You never know, your ideas have already 'developed' from Lib Dem to Tory. What will they develop into and which side of the fence will you be sitting on next?  Whatever, at any rate, consistency just isn't your thing is it?!And interesting that you would still try to hold that the state promotes itself too much - but Ealing Council doesn't.  It doesn't occur to you that that amounts to double standards?The cost of Around Ealing is one issue we could disagree about no doubt but I believe the argument here is about the substantive content of the mag so I'd be grateful if you didn't try to confuse these issues.If Around Ealing stuck to being neutrally informative there would not be a problem. The trouble is it doesn't. In the first place it is selective with its stories. It only prints stories that portray your administration in a good light. It avoids all stories that are contentious (eg. Arcadia being called in to scrutiny, losing our money in an Icelandic bank, imposing contentious fines on motorists at Ealing Broadway station and Mansell Rd/Ruislip Rd junction etc...etc...etc... ) and fails to put things in any sort of context. Around Ealing and other literature is being used to bombard us with advertisement style bragging about there being a 0% council tax increase this year. Why? Doesn't every householder receive a bill informing them of this? And why does the bill also contain a letter trumpeting this again? The mag contains absolutely no information about the corresponding cuts to front-line public services in Environment & Trading Standards.  Nor any mention of the 50% cut to the Somali Schools/Home Liaison Officer service. And why does it not mention that you are putting council rents up by 4.7% while keeping council tax down? In short nothing in Around Ealing is contextualised or balanced and therefore by default, it serves the encumbent administration, which in your case happens to be you.  In short it is an attempt at duping residents into thinking that everything is rosy in Ealing when it certainly is not. If the residents are funding this publication then they ought to be entitled to a balanced interpretation of things and we are not getting that for our £85,000!

Dawn Ryder ● 6391d

Having spent 15 years buying advertising for national and local companies I think I can add to this trail a little.I will start with a little smack for everyone on this forum, as the demise of classified advertising, and some display advertising, is down to budgets being shifted online. Add to that, eyeballs are shifting online into local arenas like Ealingtoday.co.uk and we are ourselves adding to the decay of local "offline" media.Had we been having this debate on a newspaper forum instead of here, at least that publisher would be able to sell our eyeballs and invest that revenue in keeping the paper going. There are only so many media people will consume properly, and if you think hard you might agree that your use and loyalty to ealingtoday.co.uk has reduced the value of the local paper for finding news and opinion.Which brings me onto my next point.You are all here for a reason. That reason is ealingtoday provides you with something you want. Be it the forum, news, classifieds, even discussing things with friends. All media need to have a USP, a reason to build a loyal following or usage. Local papers missed the trick big-time in the advent of the web. If they had realised what we really wanted, this site would be owned by them.Instead they created imitations, possibly too late to grab the same audience they had offline. Add to that demographic change, with more people happy to use the web, and papers struggle.But vitally, the reason I would place an advert for my clients in a local paper is content. Good content builds readership, builds loyalty and builds an environment to advertise in. And content suffers when revenues don't allow for good journalism. Catch-22. Advertising leaves due to the web changing consumer behaviour, investment falls and the medium dies. Very few towns in the US now have a local paper. We may end up in the same situation.There is a parallel I'll throw in.On the high street, consumers have a herd mentality based on their demographic. That is proven statistically. You can maintain purchase behaviour as long as demographics are stable. That in turn generates revenues which sustain similarly demographic retailers. The demographics of Ealing high street users has changed dramatically in the 12yrs I've been here, from ABC1 english speakers to C2DE immigrants. You only have to pop into Currys on a Sunday to find most shoppers don't speak English as a first language, for example, and many shops have polish speakers to cope with the customers. Before anyone begins the knee-jerk PC racist chants, my point is this new demographic could not sustain the Ealing of 12yrs ago, in terms of retailer demographic and required revenues through tills. Again, in my industry I get stats easily about retail volumes by postcode by demographic (Retail MOSAIC plus EPOS data for those who care), and it is clear Chiswick and Kingston have seen their footfall volumes explode with ABC1 Ealing residents voting with their feet to environments they are comfortable with (a demographic match). Catch-22. Environment changes, consumer behaviour changes, environment has to change further due to economic pressures. So I would suggest all Ealing residents looking to maintain Ealing of 12yrs ago should vote with their feet and wallets and try and spend money in those retail outlets still useful to them rather than heading south.The one question is whether external factors beyond immigration catalysed the decline. Greedy retail landlords? The proposed leaf development scaring retailers into giving up space? Westfield? the council not investing enough in the local environment?Unfortunately I think you can't beat a bit of John Lewis followed by a browse round the market square, a stroll by the river and lunch at Frere Jaques, so I will admit Kingston is getting my money. Will Ealing ever get mine back? Not while it looks the state it does.

Darren Barber ● 6388d

thanks Tony, I suppose the problem with my post is the unanswered question it poses.what started the decline of ABC1 investment in Ealing?Immigration, which I am assuming you are alluding to with the "racist bigots" tag, would not in itself create the decline if the ABC1 investment remained intact.Does anyone in the council read this?Do they have a view on which of the factors triggered the decline of Ealing town centre (does the council even recognise the decline?):1. Immigration causing a change in environment leading to a change in resident behaviour? Not racist, just people moving to environments they are comfortable with.2. Retail costs rising to an unacceptable level (rent, rates)? Greedy landlords?3. Competition from Westfield or Kingston due to infrastructure investment far outstripping that provided for Ealing retailers.4. The proposed new leaf development creating uncertainty for retailers to invest in existing retail outlets?I'd hope someone in the council monitors these changes with a view to positive action, rather than just allowing a spiral of decline.I'd like to add one more personal view, which is that Ealing will not survive as a pleasant environment while it serves as the gateway to the M4 and M40 for west London.Whoever decided the north circular should run that close to Ealing should be shot. It is idiocy to try and run the same volume of traffic being carried by 3 lanes near Brent Cross on only one lane through Ealing Common. Who thought that would ever work!?!?Ealing is very much in danger of becoming nothing more than a polluted, concrete reinforced service station attached to the side of busier and busier roads. The North Circ, A4 (Great West Rd), Uxbridge Road etc. Chiswick roundabout is so gridlocked these days, and backs up to the common, it won't be long till the common is destroyed to make way for better roads to carry more lorries and cars driving straight over Ealing, which is basically in the way.I suppose traffic could be another reason residents stopped using Ealing town centre. 10 years ago, I loved the green spaces of Ealing, now it is becoming a functional machine, with the council providing the operations of pushing cars through it, watching shops close, picking up litter (better than ever), effectively residing over a slow decline.When was the last time you remember someone REALLY investing properly in something to benefit Ealing's community or environment?

Darren Barber ● 6378d