Forum Topic

Labour Council's secret chip and bin plans?

Does the new Labour Council in Ealing have secret plans to introduce Chip and Bin?Plans are being drawn up by the Labour Council to reward wards that increase their recycling rates. One of the incentives will be an INCREASE IN FUNDING for Ward forums to those wards that increase recycling rates.As the Labour Party knows, rubbish is not collected on a ward by ward basis, but a 5 day cycle. This means that part of a ward will be collected on Monday another part Tuesday etc.The ONLY WAY to monitor recycling rates therefore is by chipping bins as it can't be done ward by ward through collections.This secret plan is also revealed in their desire to remove the independent monitoring of rubbish collection and street cleaning services. This independent measure was introduced by the Conservatives to improve service quality by removing the contractors abiltity to assess itself. Commonsense dictates that one can't review one's own work, it's ridiculous, it will lead to a filthy borough and we all remember those days!The Labour Council plan to rescind the independent monitoring aspect when the contract is renewed. This amendment will add weight to their argument for Chip and Bin, because there will be no independent measurement of recycling!!Only Chip and Bin can do this for them. I urge residents to write to their Labour Councillor and oppose the removal of independent monitoring of rubbish collection and street cleaning so as to thwart their plans for chip and bin.Kind Regards,Cllr Benjamin DennehyHanger Hill Ward

Benjamin Dennehy ● 5940d25 Comments

Oh dear Benjie,You appear to be following in the footsteps of Cllr Taylor with false accusations built around a complete lack of knowledge.Indeed it is a Labour manifesto commitment to introduce a scheme that will reward communities for recycling – well done on reading that part of our election document.However, the scheme must be implemented in a way that is right for this borough and had you read on, you would have noticed another manifesto commitment NOT to introduce chips to our bins.If anything, it is the CON-DEM government who have recently praised and are trying to promote the intrusive chip-based rewards system in places such as Conservative Windsor, where each and every green box is measured invasively and laboriously.Unlike the CON-DEM government we will actually be sticking to our manifesto pledges: our plans will not be intrusive or use chips.If through your misplaced comments you are suggesting that you do not wish to support the scheme, when introduced, then I am sure your residents in Hanger Hill will be interested to know that you are denying them the opportunity for any extra funding.It’s a shame that your own manifesto was so thin on the ground when it came to actual on-the-ground proposals to boost recycling across the borough – poor show that you’d run out of ideas after only four years.As for the false accusations in the rest of your post, it perhaps represents more of a chip on your shoulder than any smidgen of reality.  It also reflects the two-faced nature that your party is adopting in opposition; with your group leader fully supporting my proposals at cabinet – now it appears you do not want to see an improved ‘clean and green’ contract for Ealing.  There are no proposals to remove independent monitoring for the current or any future contract, unless you are suggesting that this is what you want.  As Cabinet member responsible I will ensure that any future monitoring remains independent and targets are challenging.You allude that tendering for the new contract would help us chip bins too… I appreciate that you are a new councillor and you are eager to score some political points but it would appear a little over eager: chips for black bin bags??? Not sure how that would work.  Perhaps you have already drawn up plans on how the Conservatives would have delivered it had you won the elections.  In any such case, I’m not interested in seeing such proposals because I have no such plans to go ahead with such a move.The only chips I want to see in bins are potato chips, recycled through our new kitchen caddies, which are being rolled out from tomorrow onwards.  They are small caddies which can be kept in peoples’ kitchens and help everyone collect peelings, left over food, etc into before putting into the bigger kitchen caddy which can be left outside ahead of collection for recycling.  We know that food in black bin bags can attract foxes, birds and vermin.  By rolling these small caddies out, we can help reduce the amount of food in our black bags and sent to landfill.If you decide you want to have a grown up conversation about recycling and waste collection then I’m ready to listen.Yours sincerely,Cllr Bassam MahfouzCabinet Member for Environment & Transport

Bassam Mahfouz ● 5940d

I don't see much difference between bins with chips for recycling and bins with chips for mixed waste.  They are both bins which tend to be larger than necessary. Neither of them encourage a reduction in waste and a reduction of waste can't be achieved just by government legislation and council rules for us - we ourselves still have to put in an amount of effort.  We keep looking for the 'easy' (lazy?)answer.What we don't want is our small gardens and pavements filled with overlarge wheelie bins and all the trundling of bins and lorries emptying them.Recycling always goes up when attention is paid to it - publicity, information, roadshows etc - much of which is paid for through grants.  Windsor were replacing two boxes with one wheelie bin.  We already only use the one in LBE for far more different items to be recycled. They don't have a food waste collection.  I think our overall collection is far better but theirs has received far greater tabloid publicity.The difficulty is getting those people who don't contribute by making the most of the Council's excellent services to do something. The story about it being difficult is now wearing rather thin since so many people can and do already recycle.  I loved it when the the reporter from the Gazette made an effort to find out about it and took on readers questions.  Not being able to get information when you want it/not knowing how to get it stops participation.Our streets are far cleaner.  It would be good if a monitoring person walked with the operatives and leafleted those buildings with obviously unsorted waste.  Haven't you been behind a lorry/walked past those properties yourself and noticed?  There are a lot of good resources being sent to landfill unnecessarily and at a cost to US ALL.

Philippa Bond ● 5939d

"What we don't want is our small gardens and pavements filled with overlarge wheelie bins and all the trundling of bins and lorries emptying them".- Right on Girl!!  -  that's one thing at least the last Council should be given credit for  -  letting us choose what non-recyclable refuse storage system we wanted. But for those of us whose homes and circumstances make black sacks the lesser of two evils, there is one problem which needs attention in the collection system  -  as we have to put our bags out the night before to avoid missuing the early morning collection, they sometimes get ripped open and the contents strewn over the footway or road by nocturnal animals. Currently the refuse crews just leave the mess there and ignore it  -  can they not be issued with a standing instruction (and the necessary manual equipment such as a brush and large dustpan) to clear it up and put it in the wagon with the intact refuse sacks? -  Or would that be too simple?Oh and BTW could you local politicians please get the message that us punters (barring a few political obsessives) are not the slightest interested in being regaled with your inter-party bitching? Apart from anything else both Labour and Conservatives have a well-established track-record here of corrupt, arrogant and unresponsive maladministration in recent years/decades (that's why the Council control has swung so violently in recent elections), so you've proved every bit as bad as each other. And the few Libdems  -  certainly the one that purports to represent us in my ward (but doesn't) has also proved as bad. So just can it and (if you can bring yourselves to do so) listen to us a bit more and mouth off to us a bit less (apart from responding properly to our reasonable questions and comments) and get on with doing the job properly  -  eh?

Chris Veasey ● 5939d