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Ne'er cast a clout till May be out

Ne'er cast a clout till May be outWith most phrases and sayings the meaning is well understood but the origin is uncertain. With this one the main interest is the doubt about the meaning. So, this time, we'll have the origin first. Origin'Ne'er cast a clout till May be out' is an English proverb. The earliest citation is this version of the rhyme from Dr. Thomas Fuller, Gnomologia, 1732, although it probably existed in word-of-mouth form well before that: "Leave not off a Clout Till May be out.MeaningLet's look first at the 'cast a clout' part. The word 'clout', although archaic, is straightforward. Since at least the early 15th century 'clout' has been used variously to mean 'a blow to the head', 'a clod of earth or (clotted) cream' or 'a fragment of cloth, or clothing'. It is the last of these that is meant in 'cast a clout'. This was spelled variously spelled as clowt, clowte, cloot, clute. Here's an early example, from the Early English Miscellanies in Prose and Verse, circa 1485:"He had not left an holle clowt, Wherwith to hyde hys body abowte."So, 'ne'er cast a clout...' simply means 'never discard your [warm winter] clothing...'. The 'till May be out' part is where the doubt lies. On the face of it this means 'until the month of May is ended'. There is another interpretation. In England, in May, you can't miss the Hawthorn. It is an extremely common tree in the English countryside, especially in hedges. Hawthorns are virtually synonymous with hedges. As many as 200,000 miles of hawthorn hedge were planted in the Parliamentary Enclosure period, between 1750 and 1850. The name 'Haw' derives from 'hage', the Old English for 'hedge'. The tree gives its beautiful display of flowers in late April/early May. It is known as the May Tree and the blossom itself is called May. Using that allusion, 'till May is out' could mean, 'until the hawthorn is out [in bloom]'. Other rhymes in which May is ambiguous are:- April showers bring forth May flowers. - Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?Thou art more lovely and more temperate:Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,And summer's lease hath all too short a date. (Shakespeare's Sonnet 18) The Hawthorn has long been a potent symbol of rebirth and appears, as May, in other old rhymes. For example, 'Here we go gathering nuts in May'. That is probably a corruption of 'here we go gathering knots of May [blossom]'. After all, there are no nuts to collect in England until Autumn - certainly not in May. Putting the case for the month, as opposed to the flower...A French proverb - 'En avril, ne te découvre pas d'un fil; en mai, fais ce qui te plaît'. This translates as 'In April, do not shed a single thread; in May, do as you please', which has much the same meaning as 'ne'er cast a clout...'.Captain John Stevens's work, 'A New Spanish and English Dictionary', published in London in 1706, translates a Spanish proverb, as "Do not leave off your Coat till May be past". Those rhymes may well have originated in England and migrated across the Channel. It is difficult to understand why the Spanish would coin such a proverb, which would seem a little cautious for that part of the world - the average temperature in Seville in May is 20°C. There is a homegrown version that supports the 'month' theory - a fuller version of the rhyme, which goes:"Button to chin, till May be in,Cast not a clout till May be out"The first line appears to have been added later and can't be found earlier than the 20th century. It clearly refers to the month though, as May blossom can come out, but can hardly be expected to go back in again, which indicates that whoever coined this additional line thought that way.There's an explicit mention of the month in the version of the rhyme from F. K. Robertson's Whitby Gazette, 1855:The wind at North and EastWas never good for man nor beastSo never think to cast a cloutUntil the month of May be outWise words for the North Sea-facing Whitby, which can't match Seville and can be icy cold even in mid-summer.All in all, although the May blossom interpretation seems appealing, the 'May' in this proverb is the month of May. It's quite timely that, here in Yorkshire at the end of May, it's turned sunny and warm - having been cold and wet until now. I'm just about ready to take my coat off and head into flaming June.     Copyright © Gary Martin

Peter Wright ● 6698d2 Comments ● 6697d

Sky TV - Forget it !

Just a warning for anyone thiking of signing up with Sky TV.This past couple of months I have nothing but problems with this company after signing up after believing the promises during their promotion.So far I have encountered the following:Installation 7am Sunday morning. No call to arrange appointment.TV Channels promised in the package are NOT included - all at extra cost despite assurances to the contrary.Emails to Sky - they NEVER answer them.Phone calls to Sky at at a premium from my cable phone. They have you on the line for ages listening to rubbish.I cancelled after less then 2 weeks by email, phone call and letter.Again the guy turned up at 8am Sunday morning to collect the box, no phone call, no warning.Finally I receive an apology for the poor service and problems they caused. They send a refund of the money spent on installation. I thought that was the end of it.Surprise surprise, they started chasing me for the full years subscription. More phone calls, emails etc. all to no avail.Today I checked with my bank and they have taken all the money back which they had refunded to me - £182.71.Unbelievable!I amnow chasing them up to get my money back, all I get is apologies. Then they said I sould get an idemnity form from my bank and clain back the money. Of course I cannot do this as it was taken from my bank card!I rang them again and this time they said the computer is down.Oh and by the way, their customer services do not answer phone calls from customers apparently. They only deal by letter. How convenient!Beware of using bank cards, it gives these people authority to take money from yur account and the bank can't stop it!OK I know I shall get the money back but it is the most frustrating thing dealing with this company.You have been warned!

Robert Julian Fernandez ● 6707d9 Comments ● 6701d

ISS

If we see any night sky over the next few nights, you may wish to keep an eye open for the International Space Station, some good passes at the moment.London   2008/05/23  03:54 pm   Sunrise/set: 04:57 am / 08:58 pmPredicted passes for: ISS         daylight-saving time enabled             Local   Duration   Date       Time    (min)   Approach     Max. elevation    Departure------------------------------------------------------------------------2008/05/23   10:21 pm   5   15° above SW    42° above SSE   12° above E  2008/05/23   11:56 pm   5   17° above W     81° above ENE   11° above E  2008/05/24   01:32 am   1   19° above W     45° above W     45° above W  2008/05/24   10:43 pm   6   12° above WSW   72° above SSE   11° above E  2008/05/25   12:19 am   3   18° above W     87° above WNW   32° above E  2008/05/25   01:53 am   <1  12° above W     12° above W     12° above W  2008/05/25   09:36 pm   <1  13° above E     13° above E     11° above E  2008/05/25   11:06 pm   5   18° above W     84° above WNW   10° above E  2008/05/26   12:40 am   3   10° above W     57° above WSW   57° above WSW2008/05/26   09:53 pm   5   15° above WSW   70° above S     10° above E  The table shows visible nighttime passes of the selected spacecraft over your chosen location during the next 5 days, if any. Local Time is the instant the satellite first becomes visible and is listed for your time zone. Duration indicates the length of each sighting in minutes. Max. elevation is how high the satellite will get above your horizon (90° is overhead). To see the spacecraft, at a given Time look in the direction indicated by Approach. You should see a slowly moving "star" (weather permitting). The Departure entries indicate where the spacecraft will be when it vanishes from sight. Sometimes an appearance or disappearance occurs well up in the sky when the satellite emerges into sunlight or slips into Earth's shadow, respectively.

Peter Wright ● 6705d0 Comments ● 6705d